TATA nano, ready for the Giga impact?

Westerners may have never thought of anything except millions and billions and may have found any other term (like lakhs crores) a source of unwanted confusion. But on 11 th Jan 2008 this other part of the world was seeing the videos of an Indian car launch across all major US/UK news channels, After all the world’s cheapest car was launched, priced at 1 lakh Indian Rupees. Many minds were stressed to figure out what exactly that means, probably near about 5000$( Current cheapest car model the Chinese Chery QQ3),

Calculations started trickling in, and astonished many,1 lakh Indian Rupees equals only $2500. WOW!

All Auto journals around the world were awe struck by this car, for $2500 an Indian company is offering a real car. A French reporter exclaimed “It seems like a real car. The windows actually wind down”

The nation watched the event closely; our news hungry news channels had a hot property at hand, something in which everyone was interested (unlike Jurm/Sansanee – wo maut ki saudagar, Vish-kanya etc). The common man wanted to see if the promise made by TATA was actually fulfilled, can he afford the “four wheeler” so that he need not do daily acrobatics to load 2 adults and three kids on his poor scooter, is he really getting a car within his limited budget and if it is anything more than a glorified AutoRickshaw?

The other opposite segment was curious to see if it is actually possible to have a car at 1 lakh Rupees.. and then in the modern world you always have a third category..some people who drive in their own patrol guzzlers to these sites to lead a protest on the name of Green-peace and environment protection.

The event got an unprecedented coverage, news channels were gearing up for the event for the last 3-4 days, and the live streaming started on some channels as much as 1 hour before the actual magic started to roll.

Hundreds of photographers were elbowing each other to get the best shot of the People’s car, while hundreds of teenagers also flocked to the Pragati maidaan to witness the history in making.

I am not interested in covering the event, that has already been covered all over media and anyway I am writing what I saw or read in the media so no point in doing that..

What I want to portray is the tremendous interest the event generated,

How years of hard work from a team of 500 engineers and anticipation from millions condensed into one moment of sensation.

Curiously I looked at interesting discussions going on various forums of some US and UK news site..you can also view them, after all TATA-nano is all over J .. at least here here and here

One thing that was evident was that its something that catches everyone’s imagination, its not an incremental product, actually it’s a potential revolution, something that can create a storm at the world level. The US car companies rose to the hard reality called Japanese manufacturing in the 80s and 90s..many terms like JIT, SMED were floated and they were not only appreciated but also adopted by the world. Are we going to see something similar soon? Am I hearing TATA?

I am not pegging all my hopes on this tiny car, probably that will be a bit too much for a 624 cc car, but if you see the larger picture its a lot more than a car. Its a strong statement about the India’s capability to challenge convention, to innovate, to force the world to stop and take a note and in this case “Applaud!”.

Before the Software/Services saga, we were known as a nation of snake charmers, then it was changed but it was really not enough, all of our success was attributed to our cheap labour force. A colonial view will say that the Indian software industry had to succeed despite their questionable quality .. after all Indian engineers come at one fifth the price.

..who cares and who will believe that you are as capable as we are!

Probably for the first time we are getting out of that cheap labour mould, the nano is not only about cheap labour, its about a vision, a promise, about aspirations of millions, top design work and courage. Had the cheap labour been the driving force, the Suzuki’s and Hyndai’s of the world who operate and manufacture in India would not have termed the project as impossibility and insanity.[ Statements made by Osamu Suzuki — “Tata will not be able to make a one lakh car” — flashed on large screens during Ratan TATA’s presentation. Cudos!!]

It’s the first time when the world is looking at India in a new light , this small car has changed a lot at a bigger scale. Above all it has given Indian middle class a new Hero.

We as a nation lack such real Heroes, Probably the last time we saw them were in the form of Dheeru Bhai Ambani and JRD. But now we have another in the form of Ratanji TATA who believes in his, his team’s and his nation’s capability. A person who took over the major responsibility in 1993 after the demise of JRD, has made many bold statements. Probably the most significant of them were entering into car market (Indiaca’s success story), Tetley and then Corus(mother of all Indian acqs) acquisition.

Even five years back a 1 lakh Rupees Car was not a joke(or should i say that it sounded like one?), Car prices were still very much the same as they are now…Steel and Oil prices have soared considerably from then but still TATAs have managed to fulfill what they promised. “A promise is a promise,” Ratan Tata said during the presentation.

The kind of coverage that TATA got could make some so called richest persons of the world/India feel a bit uneasy. But it shows a big reality ..”You think about the common man and the world will think about you if you are honest about it”. The common man is once again in focus..at least for some days..Bajaj is planning something similar in collaboration with Renault. Probably this common man will come into focus in other industries as well.

The true success of TATA nano will be decided in another one year or so, but the kind of inquiries that TATA showrooms are catering to in the smallest and farthest towns/small cities in India, the kind of Thumbs-up it got from international/national auto media and Indian Auto industry is enough to conclude that if the whole journey matches the debut than this car will redefine the Auto industry of this country and who knows, it may redefine the whole country as well. As it inspires millions of youngsters like me to be proud of what we are..INDIANS!!

I Salute you Mr. TATA, Jai Hind!!

I don’t know if its good or bad, but its different!

Well after all I got some time to write an entry. I never knew before I joined the college what exactly this hectic study schedule would mean, given my track record I never accepted that I will follow all the rules, for me I considered myself fundu enough to live here on my own terms, but alas! I was nothing but overconfident.
The system is too rigorous for anyone to come and challenge it, I don’t know what will happen if you do, because I could never do that.
There is a difference between busy and hectic, i had my fair share of busy days during my career, but hardly experienced this hectic sort of happenings. Busy is something when you are not getting spare time, but still hopefully you are working on a single problem at hand, But here in this land of sacrosanct time limits, its hectic. what this means is that on a given day there are 5 resume submissions to be made, 2 online forms to be filled(some times they run into 10-15 pages, asking nonsensical and non relevant questions like my marks in all the subjects throughout my education, relative position/grade etc, all of my family background, even my birth place..all this given that they will definetly reject my resume after reading the first 3 lines it self, a poor MNNIT grad with a 75% marks) , add to that the ppts of companies that you have to attend and suffer, project group meetings, gyan sessions, tutorials, surprise quiz fear, and you know that you are in a virtual hell 🙂

OK this was a particularly depressing picture maybe because i had to attend two painful ppts today. there is a brighter side as well, you get great subjects and profs, huge learning opportunities and if looking from a different perspective a challenging schedule as well.
Like sometimes when i have to run hard to reach the lecture room in time, I love it, it reminds me of my school/college days 🙂

Ohh… AaaaI’ ll be joining AAIAAIMB

Attitude! that’s the thing that I have noticed in past few days. Simply because I am also joining IIMB..I have seen/interacted with lots of my future class mates recently.

I have seen some very weird reactions of these future IIM students and that have forced me to write this particular entry.
I understand that there is very fine line between being proud of your achievements and being arrogant, but still i am very interested in defining this line more clearly, When exactly a highly successful person starts to look cheap thanks to his constant bragging.

This also reminds me of my earlier days of college life. How we used to mock all the private colleges in our MNNIT days, How it gave us extreme pleasure to tell someone that we study in MNNIT.. and how we thought that the other guy must not be knowing our real value if he failed to respond accordingly.

Coming back to the topic..no need to say that most of these guys must be having a great profile, then they have cracked CAT and must have had a great day on their GD/PI day.

But still, what does this say about them?

1.they are very good at cracking a CAT like paper(OK I extend it and say that they have good aptitude)

2.They have an impressive profile/personality.

But I can still not allow someone with these limited (proven) credentials to be an egotist.

Tomorrow if they become successful businessmen and create some value for this society (that has otherwise given so much to them) I will have absolutely no problem if they ridicule every second person and open every gate with a kick. 😀

But not now, I feel extremely uncomfortable with persons who don’t show minimal respect that must be granted to every human being.(and not boasting about your IIT/IIM tag when you are talking to any other guy or at least concealing that condescending attitude should be a part of that)

I thought a lot about this and then I thought about some really inspiring personalities..(In Indian context, for me it will be Mahatma Gandhi, JRD Tata, Ambani, some gallantry award winner soldiers like Capt Batra, Lt. Pandey, stars like AB Bachchan(you may hate him, but you can’t ignore him), A.R.Rehman, great doctors, architects) ..very few of them have these IIT/IIM tags.

Now coming to my list, what sets these greats apart is not the degrees that they hold but its their focus, passion and talent/intelligence.

In fact most of them were not that promising in their early 20s(now most iitians are on seventh heaven at an age of say 17-19 ), they had moderate talent ..which they were able to grow just because of their passion and focus.

I would like to talk about intelligence as this is one of the most difficult word to define.

To me it has many parameters. You need not be too good on all the parameters to be called as intelligent, if have an spectacular command on some parameters, its enough to show that given the time and desire you can master any other parameter as well.

Here are the parameters –

-Logical ability

-Quantitative analysis(may in turn have many parameters like number crunching, problem solving, correlating powers etc etc)

-business sense- ability to think about how to do your work by hook or by crook.

-memory power

-consulting power(how you can reach a good solution and how well can you put it across)

-Creativity(if you can create an awesome piece of art, which can be anything ..music/painting/movie whatever, you can never be dumb)

etc etc.

The only point that I want to make is that getting into an IIT or IIM is surely a great thing to do ..but its not the ultimate thing. And though a person insures that he will be earning a lot in future ..nothing else is insured(compared to the kind of dream that we usually have.. like being the Jack Welch, Gates or Branson of tomorrow).

So why get so obsessed with this IIT/IIM tag, its not the only thing to define a person..he himself will have to define him in future.

I could never join an IIT because of my low rank..but had I got 15-20 more marks I would have got an under 1500 rank for sure. Similarly had I got one more question wrong in Language section of CAT this year ..i would have probably got 0 calls. What I mean is that we all are different in so many aspects. Very few lucky ones get the chance to get into IITs and IIMs ..but they have to understand that there are thousands of others who would have replaced them for sure had they got a bit better opportunities, guidance and maybe luck.

Ps. I can blabber on this issue for hours. So I might be posting again on the same topic once I get an insider’s view :).
And one more thing is that the issue here is a lot broader, I have seen such a weird behaviour of so many govt employees towards common junta, Comp Sc students having such behaviour towards Civil Engg guys. Indians having such behaviour towards Africans(though they receive the same in much more quantity frm Europeans n Americans) n all that.

We all are guilty of evaluating others based on face values specially when it is none of our business to do so, we forget that the God has used the greatest of algorithms to diversify talent and skills across all possible parameters like demographic groups, classes, gender etc.

Current Affairs

there are so many new things that I want to share over here..the most important one is that I am getting married very soon(19th june).
another is an update that i got final calls from all the IIMs except IIMA, so I’ll be joining IIMB 🙂

I am already out of my job, so these days I am absolutely free and thus I am into too many things.
listing them in order of priority –

Trading – these days the rate at which I am looking at or hearing of or maybe thinking of Sensex and Nifty is definitely more than my heart beat itself. I just entered it on this Monday and look the market is already down by around 400 points from then. I have currently invested in Unitech, ZEE, CINEMAX and Power India Finance(probably the weakest link) and making losses in tune of 5- 10% in each of these stocks. Don’t worry I have invested hardly 5-6k till now, so the losses are not more than 300-400Rs. Hoping to come in green very soon. 🙂

Web Site:- It was on highest priority before this trading bug got me. I am planning to roll out some lessons on quants. i mean an online resource of not only questions but also for theory in very lucid form supported with great and hand picked examples. I know its tough and I hardly have any time left to do so in near future..but I am still trying , still figuring out the right pattern and flow.

Body Building:- It has been more than 3 months since I joined the Gym, its another thing that my attendance over there is not that great(maybe 50-60%). but still I have gained a lot of muscles.. the only sad factor is that my stomach muscles have also joined the party, so the tummy has slowly but surely started to bulge out of T-shirts.
my advice to everyone is to focus on cardio, I almost stopped any cardio to save some time after initial 10-15 days, it may be boring when compared to weight training but its very useful..it will help in melting some fat so that all the form is visible in those newly building muscles(and obviously it will keep the tummy in check)

Serials – I am guilty of watching a lot of tv programs these days..during day time its business channels, late night its news channel and in between I don’t mind watching a “Saathi Re”(9:00 pm, Star One) or even “Teen Bahuraanian”(10:30 Zee Tv) and I am feeling a bit too embarrassed but I don’t mind watching even “Jab Love Hua”(11:00 Zee TV), apart from this some weekend shows like SaReGaMa or Antakshari(Star One – m not sure about the kids series .. but this one was very good) or Indian Idol and Laughter Challenge -3.
So you know what I am doing most of the time these days..m glued to the idiot box.

Coaching – I am also working in PT as a guest faculty .. have only taken 3 classes till now .. but whenever i have a class I do enjoy the experience.

Sketching – its a long time dream to be able to make sketches. I have got hold on some good books and now i am trying hard to get some time for that.

Shaadi Prep – its again a huge task. apart frm all shoppings of Sangeeta in which I have to give her company like a dummy of her future husband(I don’t like this kinda expensive shopping..kinda miser you know :), n then I really don’t like the idea of wasting 3 hours of time..unwinding! and I mean unwinding so many shops, walking from on end of a street to another just to get something 200 Rs cheaper or maybe coz the blue pearls used in a saree were not that much in sync..uff) I have to buy something for myself as well.
tried hard but could not buy a Sherwaani, could not convince myself for spending 8-10k for those embroided kurtaas. I will try to buy smthing cheaper from Agra itself.

there are other things as well..like currently I am in between of at least 4 books(Freakonomics, It happened in India, Loosing my Virginity(Richard branson) and The Clocks.

I hope you can imagine the whole picture, I am having absolute free time since this monday..but still I can always complicate things and have a habit of taking more on my plate then what I can eat(though literally in this case I end up eating whatever I took ..hence the tummy 🙂 )
and I am thoroughly enjoying all this confusion, panic and uncertainty.

IIMB – All that matters..Love, Life, Peace and IIMB

Felt victorious on reaching the campus at 2:25(for the 2:30 pm batch, 26th Feb), strolled to the admission office, just to realize that the group/(profs) is just waiting for its last absent member(yours truly).

We all are led to the GD room, having chairs around a large table.

The GD :- GD topic was about a problem being faced by Mr Ambrose, principal of a small School.

There is a maths teacher in his college who was excellent in his job, since he joined the college, the grades of students in maths have improved considerably, and most of them no longer have any fear of maths.

He is fully focused and even helps students who need extra care through special classes.

But now all of a sudden parents of 10 students have complained against the teacher accusing him of Sexual misbehavior with their children.

Case asked us about the options ahead of the Principal in this case?

Well, as a group we started with the analysis of the problem, while 1-2 of the guyz jumped in with the solutions well within the first minute itself. I came up with points about the priorities of Mr. Ambrose, Like – First of all was to avoid a police enquiry by resolving the issue quickly and placate the parents ..take them in confidence blah blah.

Then the discussion focused on this teacher. Whether he can be allowed to work or not..or maybe if he can be allowed to take classes in school and aborting the special classes(as the incident happened in special class), or if we need a proof to take any action against a teacher having a great proven record. Whether to install CCTVs in every class room.etc etc.

I said that allowing him to take classes in the school alone will also be difficult as the atmosphere of the class will not be like it was earlier.

About Mr Ambrose’s options I said that placating parents of 10 students will be very difficult in this situation so he should talk to this teacher, tell him about the situation and assure him that without a proper enquiry he is not guilty in the eyes of management.. but being a responsible employee he should understand the situation and that he will be suspended till the enquiry is over.

I also came up with a point that we need to look about such incidents happening in large companies and that usually they have a zero tolerance policy(keywords matlab good funde) about such issues. This is a small school so they may not have any such guideline or proper rule to follow. Mr Ambrose should take it as an opportunity to lay down some rules and guidelines about what should be done in such kind of situations related to ethics/morality or criminal activities of teachers… blah blah

The Interview:-

Our panel had two profs (age around 60 years) .. one was a bit thin and serious(SP) while the other sir had a jolly attitude.(JP)

SP – You have mentioned something about Feather in my Cap award that you got in wipro.. tell me something about why was this award given to you?

Blah blah

SP – Is it just given from Project manager level?

Yeah (it was just the starting so jyada fenkne ki himmat nahi hue J)

JP – You have also written something about your father working in Dehradun on some Hydroelectric plant?

Yes sir ..blah blah

For how many years have you lived in this place?

Me – Almost all of my schooling has been done from there, Right from my first grade to class 12th.

JP(smiling) – Is it a beautiful place?

Yes sir , very beautiful. In fact its a hill station for tourists.

JP – What are the other places that you have been to?

Me – Sir Dakpathar, Dehradun, Mussoorie, Allahabad, Gorakhpur, Sitamari, Bangalore, then I have been to Sakleshpur for a trek, pondicherry(just before the infamous sting operation..lucky me :-D), Mangalore, Malape blah blah..

JP – Was it through college or company trips?

With friends..just casual tours.

JP – Which one is the most beautiful one?

For me, Dakpathar is the one, probably coz that’s my place J

JP – Have you find any cultural differences between your dehradun and >:Place>Bangalore>:Place>

Me – Sir, I would like to compare Allahabad and Bangalore, because of there stark contrast. In Allahabad life is different you don’t have so many engineers around you..low literacy rate..low labour rate..poverty ..ppl bein happy in what they are less materialistic blah blah..

JP – Allahabad is a spiritual city, so can you tell me something about that?

Me – (ohh spirituality ko to mein bhool hee gaya) blah blah ..talked about Sangam snan and that upto 30 lakh devotee take dip on occasions of moni amawasya or Kumbhs.

JP – So when 30 lakhs people take a dip, doesn’t it get dirty.

Me – Its already very muddy, so.. not much scope left.. laughs all around.

JP – No, what I meant is that people take dip in such polluted water, so y don’t they fall ill?

Me – Sir, as such if we see then they are just bathing and not drinking it..so there is no big chances for any illness.

JP – But maybe some skin related deseases..

Me – Actually it is not that much polluted, it is just coming through smaller cities like Bulandshahar and Kanpur(not small by any means, atleast for pollution)..unlike Yamuna which comes through a city like Delhi and then Agra etc.

And then after all we in our mythology believes the ganga water to kill all bacteria and remove diseases.

JP(getting interested now) – OK is this the spiritual belief that saves them, if I inhale polluted air will it not affect me if I have some spiritual belief about that.

Me – No Sir .. Spirituality can only give you a confidence and belief..blah blah..

JP – Ok what are the benefits of Spirituality?

Blah blah

JP – Does this mean that if I have mental strength then I can do anything?

Me – Sir, there are two cases –

1.I have the strength but due to my fears or mental weakness I will not be able to do that, in thius case spirituality will surely help me. It will induce the required self belief and allay any fears of failures.

2. If I don’t have the physical strength at all to do something then I guess that spirituality will also not help me much.

SP – OK bhanu so you are from MNNIT…. so in MNNIT, apart from studies, what else did you do?

Me – (stumped.. silent or 5 secs, I was doing well with JP..but what is this? First of all I am guilty of not studying that much over there.. and he is asking about what else??.. can I simply say that I didn’t study and did nothing else as well)

Aaaaa….. Skits.. continuous learning experience…. continuous pressure .. transition from a student to becoming industry ready..blah blah ..(real fenkupanti)

SP – So what are the benefits do you get by doing these skits?

Me – Nothing much, apart from the fact that people starts recognizing you- .. laughter all around.. you get to hear things like “look he was the guy who played the role of Osama”

Sp – Is there anything you learn from this?

Me – (thinking hard) – Yeah sir in most of the skits I played the role of Director and script writer, so leadership skills..team work, balance and how synergy adds to your work blah blah..

JP – Was thr any constant theme in your skits?

No..blah blah..

Sp – But it is not necessary that a good leader in skits will also be a good leader in managerial scenarios of industry..

Me – Yes Sir it is not necessary but they are somehow related, ultimately it is about team building and working with a team , explore synergy etc..

Sp – If I had to make a choice out of Set top box and DTH, which one will you suggest and why?

Me – Sir I will suggest DTH because of –

no issue with cable faults.. sometimes there is no power in the area from where you get the signal so you too can’t watch anything and things like this..etc etc

SP – OK but what about customer lock –in? Should not the government come with guidelines regulating the tarrifs?

Me – Let the market forces decide that..(y the hell govt need to jump into everything, n that too in ensuring that everyone is getting the daily dose of Ekta Kapoor serials at a nominal prize ..don’t they have anything better to do?)

SP – OK lets take it this way, should not the government set guidelines that only one type of disk should be used.

Me – No ..blah blah ..that again is similar to helping monopoly..etc(I missed the point he was trying to make, I thought he was trying to say that we will use only DD Direct disc kinda thing but in fact he was talking about having some common standards for enabling interoperability, so a DISH tv disc can be utilized to get services from DD if the need arrive.. realized it hours after theInterview )

SP – How many DTH satellites should be there for >:Place>India>:Place>?

Me – hmm..

Sp – I mean 1, 10 or 100 ?

Me – more than 5 for sure

SP – Can you name a few?

Me – I don’t know exactly but as far as I remember there was an INSAT – 2B launched in 2001, it had some DTH related components, now the PSLV launched in January this year also had some DTH related components. But I am not too sure about them..

[He said that that’s all he wanted to know.. in a tone that was like he is satisfied, but this INSAT 2 series was launched in 1992-1996 period , and after that we had 3 and now we have INSAT 4_ series, donno much but if he had any idea about it he must have caught it. But that PSLV launch in Jan was a fact, its another case that it didn’t have any DTH components.. but who knows? Kya pata hon bhi J . maybe I could have resigned saying that I don’t have any idea, but I just went ahead.. names of INSAT and PSLV could have gone well with the interviewers if they themselves didn’t have much knowledge about this, that is more likely as they didn’t stretch it after that .. or maybe it was just because of lack of time]

Sp – Compare Wipro and Oracle

Me – blah blah ..work culture..service company vs product company etc..

Sp – Competition for Oracle

Me – blah blah..

Sp – What do you know about banking product of I-Flex (acquired by Oracle)

Me – funde about Citi group’s earlier holdings and the related difficulty to get a share of the US market and how the Oracle’s brand name can help it to do so now ..

Sp – Compare FlexCube with Finacle

Me – blah blah ..mildly bluffed about how finacle was launched by infosys(like time and the strategy ..i didn’t have much idea but still wanted the answer to look genuine and impactful)..

That’s it..and my luck was sealed.

I did my level best, now lets see if my best was good enough.

IIML(Formal Shirt, pants, black shoes, tie, that lock of hair in place… but but Look out for the zip as well :) )

Comedy, before the drama could start: – IIML, the institute that I would love to attend if i am lucky enough to get an opportunity. Not that I am belittling IIM K or I, but just because L is very near to home(comparatively) it had a place right after A and B for me.(donno what I would do if at all I get L and C call ..I am just talking about what I feel now).

So it added some pressure as well, because for me somehow it was an interview for the big one. Lets start with the fateful morning of 15th Feb itself.

This time I was determined to reach a bit early, as the PagalGuy forums indicated that the GDs are starting at sharp 9’o clock. I knew that reaching on time is as impossible for me as taking wickets is becoming for Irfan Pathan. The harder we both will try the more difficult and impossible it will get for us. But still I tried and induced my mind into believing that I have to reach there(again the familiar Monarch Hotel) by 8:30.

But I think that getting late is always in my fate, its an habit that I should meekly surrender to. Its an eternal law, Just like a S/W engineer can never find an intelligent manager, I can never turn out anywhere on/before time. Accepting the fact, at best I should try to minimize the damage.. because even if I try to change this, my luck will make sure to discourage me further ..just like the way it happened this time.

I was getting dressed when I looked at my mobile..it’s hard to read screen had “3 messages received” on it, believe me since when my love story has stabilized I only get 1-2 promotional messages per week, interrupted with 1-2 forwarded messages from friends/3 months(holi diwali types). So out of curiosity I decided to check them out. All of them were from ICICI they were like –

Msg1- the entered pin is wrong ..card will be blocked if tried more than thrice

Msg 2- 500 Rs withdrawn from your account/card

Msg3- balance enquiry done

I panicked as I had applied for an ICICI credit card(with some debit limit) and had not received it yet(a day before this also I got 2 msgs with saying wrong pin etc ..but I ignored them). Maybe it was already in some wrong hands.(and the guy now knew the correct pin as well)

Though I know that my fears were a bit stupid but frankly I am still not fully comfortable with cards, so I tried to call ICICI call center.. to my surprise they open their shops at 9’oclock for complaints. Wasted around 10-15 mins on this.

Then opting for the old trick I went in to the enquiry/new cards queue to finally get hold of a customer executive.

He confirmed that I have only one card in my name which is still to be used for the first time…that lead to a written mail from my side to customer care etc etc..

Time –8:35 a.m. 🙁

Rushed out of the flat, I had the Scooty (courtesy Sangs) to bank upon. Gave it the full accelerator..my tie was flying like a torn flag of a ship that was about to sink in the storm. You can understand the frustrations I went through while facing the Bangalore traffic and its jams when I was counting each and every passing minute.. Finally reached at brigade road(Time 9:05), parked/dumped the scooty wherever I got the space..thought about tackling the traffic police later incase if the take it to the station(wow! So much for sangeeta’s scooty, thats called gratitude :D) ran into the building..sprinted through the stairs..just to find another guy hesitantly getting ready to knock at the door.

Seeing me in this bizarre state he felt a lot better. Very similar to the feeling that I had when a fellow programmer had 11 bugs against his code within a day of QA taking it, while I myself had 9 😀 or probably even more close to what you feel after scoring a zero in some test to discover that there is at least one more person sharing the regal score with you.

We were in the same panel(I was just so happy to see him with me that I almost forgot to worry about my own pathetic situation, .. standing outside a closed GD room which according to the attendant outside was closed since 8:55 am.)

At last we knocked(while he knocked .. I prayed.. [-O< ) A Prof came out, looked quite disgusted to see us there. I peeked in to see that guyz sitting inside had already written about half page of summary.. I knew at that instant that its gonna be really tough from now on.

We pleaded .. gave excuses of Bangalore traffic(which magically strikes a cord with anyone who has faced it even once) etc etc ..finally he went in to talk to the other Prof..and ..and EUPHORIA ..he signaled us to come in. 🙂

But just when I was about get in with a much relieved state of mind..the attendant asked me to come to a side., signaling in a manner that could have easily been mistaken 😉

I was greatly annoyed.. asked him in quite a crass manner.. whats the problem?

He still asked me to come a step towards him..(now everyone from inside was looking at me through the door)..

I was really not amused and with my eyes straight on his face I advanced towards him..repeating my words ”Whats the problem?” :-L

He said in a contrasting low voice “Sir your zip is open” ..
WHAT??
Whew !!
OMG.. zipped the pants ..thanked the kind man. Cursed myself and entered in the room with a smiling face as if nothing happened outside.

Guyz who were in there looked at us coldly(saale ye kahan se tapak gaye..7 hee bande rehte to achcha thhaa)

He gave us the chits and told that we will get only 5 mins to read it and write the summary.(others were stopped after a couple of minutes)

The GD:- I opened the chit and the sentence written on it was –

“In business world, the rear view mirror is always clearer than the windscreen”

I knew that I had less time so tried to come to the point quickly ..the only point I could think of was about relating the windscreen to future and the rear view mirror to the past. I opted for the TATA example(as they had recently acquired corus) how there is uncertainty about their future while their past is certain and clear to all of us, was about to add something when we(both) were stopped.

Now the GD started.

The lines on which I was thinking were put forward by someone else..i knew that this is the time or otherwise I will be too late(even in the discussion :O )

I quickly came up with my TATA-Corus example to support this view.

This was well heard by the group(and hopefully by the profs as well) , but it started a flurry of such examples(you know everyone goes through ET with a renewed sense of interested in these GD/PI days.. taking every merger and acquisition as seriously as if the multi billion deal is done for the sole purpose of pushing the reader into IIMA through some backdoor entry)

This mayhem went on for about 5 mins ..the topic was lost in this GD in which the group suddenly became very much interested about all the mergers and acquisitions that have taken place in near past..i just contributed with the correct figures whenever I could. Then somehow it came back to track with someone talking about viewing this from competition point of view….like some competitors ahead of you(windscreen)and some behind you(rear view ) and tried to fit the analogy. Great diversion.

I felt that I need to get in again with something substantial.. realized that my mind is still working and came out with this bluff(purity guaranteed) –

“When we are talking about competition I would like to quote Michael Schumacher who once said that when he is on racing track he never try to see who is behind him, he believes in just focusing ahead to see who is ahead of him”

Didn’t try to relate it completely to the topic given..but still It had its impact..looked like I am talking some substance and got much respect from the group after this.

After contributing here and there in the end I again came up with one point relating this to entrepreneurship..like an entrepreneur is gonna have the road clear when he starts”(as he is the only one on that road).. but as soon as he starts to make big profits others will start to jump in ..making the road crowded and his windscreen/future less clearer than his rear mirror/past .. something like this ..

Group supported this and 1-2 guyz discussed further, I supported it with Indian aviation industry example..saying that Jet and AirDeccan had it easier as they had early advantage when compared to newer airlines ..most of whom are running in loss blah blah …

Overall a pretty satisfying GD(satisfaction of getting away with the bluff included)


The Interview:-

Interviews were very short, guyz were going in and coming out within 10 mins. Maybe the profs were worried about their lunch.

Finally it was my turn –

Both the profs were just typical middle aged(I mean around 50) profs. Not much to differentiate so I will call both of them as P. they were not much interested in the answers so I expect something similar from you as well, so I will not provide my full answers as such-

P – Tell me something about urself

Blah blah ..

P – What was this JOSH? (I had a certificate of the same)

Sir it was our cultural festival..

P – but it is about Volleyball

(WTF) :-S Sorry sir it was our Sports festival ..(hee hee ..great going)

P – Why do you want to do a management course?

Blah blah..

P -Don’t you get learning opportunity in ur work?

Sir I do get ..actually I learned a lot in my initial days ..but these days it is getting easier for me and there are fewer new things to learn now given my work constraints.

And about IIMs, I would love to have that great learning opportunity of 2 years..where I will have some of the most intelligent persons of the country as my class mates and will be taught by some of the best professors, in an area that excites me.

P-Don’t you have intelligent persons around you in your company?

Yes there are but you can’t compare all of them with the batch of IIM..different settings ..blah blah

P – Dhiru Bhai Ambani, Bill Gates didn’t have MBA weren’t they good entrepreneurs?

They were ..but they still had to learn the things in a hard way..for example Dhirubhai had to directly interact with small vendors/employees and customers in his initial days..he acquired his man power management/ HR skills through such interactions. A formal MBA can help in this process. And I do believe that DBA or AP would have become even better managers had they undergone through a formal course.

What do you know about entrepreneurship?

Blah ..blahh

According to you, who was a better leader, Azim Premji or Bill Gates?

Bill Gates ..bacause of vision ..etc

But Bill Gates was charged with AntiTrust law?

Gave some gyan over Antitrust ..like the parameters considered predatory pricing , customer lock-in etc etc ..and tried to say that all of them are debatable. Whether they are good or bad for open business is questionable..so antitrust is not a crime as such. Its just an attempt to control few things. A business decision can come under its scanner even if the company’s intentions were clear.

(Could have given funde about great leaders working for the junta that they lead)

Do you know that Bill Gates has adopted a village in India?

No

1-2 more questions followed ..thats it

very brief interview. They were just stressing a bit on why MBA kind of questions..apart from that they were keeping it really short. Maybe the profiles are going to play a greater role.

18th Feb, 2007

IIMI’s GD/PI..the smooth performance

The Settings :- My IIMI interview’s venue was PES management institute(PESIT campus), As usual, again I got very late, left my flat at 8:40(for the GD that is supposed to start at 9:00 am… height of stupidity!)

Never knew that it is that far away.. almost drove out of City limits.. finally reached the campus at 9:10.. ran into the main hall, asked about this IIM GD/PI thing..nobody was aware of this 🙁

just then I saw a group of well dressed guyz going upstairs in a herd, followed them quickly, finally saw a Prof who was holding some papers, informed him about my coming(should I say arrival). He gave me a hard look and then ticked my name and told me that I belong to group number 3.

Straight away we were asked to enter respective rooms for the GD.

I just shuddered to think like what would have happened if I were late by few more seconds, I am sure that getting this info that the whole group has gone to the fourth floor was not easy. I mean nobody was there on the ground floor to inform this.

But then nobody expects that morons like me will descend there after almost half an hour of scheduled time(8:45)

The GD:-

I am trying to reproduce the case to the best of my memory, while omitting minor details(though it is possible to come up with winning points from those details in many of the GDs..but nothing of that sort happened here)

An IIT grad Mahesh joined a petroleum company. He had other offers as well but opted for this one as he was very much impressed by the company’s policies of giving emphasis on ethics and integrity. He was posted in heartland UP and around 100 dealers were under his area of supervision.

After getting a hang of the things for a while, he was displeased with the way things were going on. He sent a letter to the higher management about the complaints that he received from the dealers and customers about the inferior quality of their oil, He wrote that no customer wanted to put their sluggish product in their vehicles. He said that their product was quickly loosing its market to their rival and something needs to be done in this regard..blah blah.

Within a few days his Area manager called him, he asked him if he has sent a letter to the Higher management and said that the management is very displeased about this. He said that you need to send only the things that please them and not the truth, and that such things are never viewed in correct light…

He felt very disappointed and started thinking about if he should leave this job to join another company or about going for higher studies..

The topic asked us to discuss about what Mahesh should do..

The group jumped at the prospects of portraying the Area Manager as the real culprit and the need to talk clearly to the higher management..(someone even suggested to register a formal complaint against un-ethical behavior of AM).

I started with a mature sounding(or is it too cliché ?) pitch of looking at why exactly the AM behaved in this manner, what are his stakes in this-

1.He may actually have some links with adulteration racket.

2. and more naturally he felt bad about not being included in the process, after all Mahesh sent the letter without taking him in confidence.

I could not continue much as someone else grabbed the airtime. :-@

But I came back again saying that there is some fault in the approach that Mahesh adopted.. He should have talked to his AM before sending anything to the higher management, by involving the AM not only his report/letter would have had higher value in the eyes of management but he could have also won his AM’s confidence.

Only after confirming that he is not getting any support from his AM, he should have thought of doing something on his own.

Now more guys pitched in to find faults in Mahesh’s approach. We all came up with very valid points like

*He should have been more specific about the problems the product has rather than saying something like it is sluggish.

* Rather than saying that customers and dealers complain that …. , he should have attached their responses with his report to make it more authentic.

I also added that he should not make sweeping remarks against the product without much research.. like Firstly he should confirm if it is happening only in his area or elsewhere as well. He should –

Talk to his peers to know if they also feel the same.

See if they are loosing the market share countrywide(by going through reports)?

To this we added that the geography or climatic conditions of this area can also be a reason behind poor performance of this mobile/automobile oil.(too far fetched may be..but we were just giving more n more breadth to the discussion..)

[nobody really cared to discuss about how to tackle AM if he is really the culprit or discuss about leaving the company/higher studies point :D]

Finally we got the stop signal after about 15 minutes of discussion. Good one for me, contributed well enough and always remained active in the discussion.

The Interview : – Then the interviews started, but first let me introduce the panel-

LP- the Lady professor, about 50 years old.

KP- The kind looking Prof, about 40 yeaars old, was very helpful and polite in the GD.

I was quite skeptical of LP, coz of her stern and shrewd look.

KP started the proceedings,

KP: Similarities between Windows Vista and Windows 95?

(my first impression was that he is talking about Vista and Windows multimedia PC, probably there was some confusion.. I tried confirming it and he said yes, then as he still didn’t look convinced by this multimedia name I further said that is he referring to the XP variant that was released in smtime in 2004, now he was shocked and said that he is talking about Windows 95 and Windows Vista.. huff donno wat happen here..)

I started with differentiating between the two when again he interrupted by saying that he asked for similarities 😐 .

(Ohh.. am I having hearing problems or are they just playing with me? Maybe I lost the original question in this 95/multimedia thing.. anyway lets carry on)

Me:- As for the similarities both are GUI based, as a matter of fact with 95 itself MS started its GUI based OS systems ..prior it was command based DOS.. so we can say that being GUI based is one of the similarity.

KP: – what do you mean by GUI based?

Me: Explained(Menus, icons, mouse coming into picture etc)

(by the confusion about 95 and so I got an idea that KP is not a harcore techie as such, and maybe this question came to his mind coz Vista is recently released, I was founding this similarity question a bit awkward to handle, so thought of leading him to a territory that will be totally alien to him and conquer him in the process 😀)

Me:- sir as I worked as a windows programmer so I can say that the basic windows architecture is going to remain the same.. I mean that though I am not sure about Vista(as if I am sure about 95 :D), but still there is something very common across all windows Opr Systems. Like for example the message passing, triggers and event handling, whatever we do with mouse is ultimately a event for the OS, and it handles it through an event handler function so these things will remain the same.

(KP was listening all this quite patiently ..nodding in between to let me know that he is getting it all..encouraging me to get further into technical fundebaazi..I just believed that actually he is not getting much 😀)

KP:- Ok that is fine but can you tell me something on the marketing and sales front as well.

(this came as a spark, and this fool, who was loosing it badly till now got the control back.. the voice got louder and more assertive)

Sir, if we look at this from that angle, Vista is a major release for MS ..just like 95 was. I mean that if we look at releases like 200Me or Windows server/Multimedia all these were intermediary releases.(unlike 95,98 or XP)
With 95 MS hoped to change the PC landscape and in fact they did it, now with Vista as well they are hoping to do the same .. they are again claiming that with its enhanced efficiency and better GUI it will revolutionize the PC market. Blah ..blah..

KP – looking a lot more satisfied)U could have come to that point in the starting itself….

Me;- Sir being a technical person(ohho ..funde to dekho :D, please don’t take my manager’s views on this) and being from the windows programming background that was the first thing that came to my mind..

Now he started asking about various specs of Vista like minimum required memory etc etc..

I didn’t have much idea ..so I said about ideally it requires 2GB of RAM,

KP:- Do you mean that it will not install on a PC that don’t have 2 gb OF ram

Me:-No sir I was talking about desired config.. I don’t know the minimum config ..but I feel that till 512/256 there should not be much problem in installing the Vista though the performance will be pathetic due to its heavy graphics ..blah blah..

Some more question followed and I gave some non committal answers ..giving general funde.. He asked me whether I have not gone through the Vista launch(in India) news.

Me – I have gone through that sir, but probably the flashy release party that featured dances from Priayanka Chopra n Akshya Kumar were noticed more than the specifications. 😉

Smiles and laughs all over ..

KP – have u heard about xyz?

.. NO

KP – Have you heard about Tablet pc? ..YES

WHAT IS IT?

Small portable PC, blah blah..

What should be the functionalities of Tablet PC according to you?

though I have never experienced it first hand ..but as a person is going to carry it with him almost always, so we can expect functionalities like calendar management, ability to save quick notes, ability to open various formats of documents etc etc..

What should be its size?

No idea .. should be small enough to be hold in one hand while operating with the other one 😉 ..and bigger than mobile 😀

He further grilled me on this size and asked me to choose between A4 size paper(the board he was holding) or its half or fourth or ..

I betted on ½ of A4 size .. (had to ..no idea as such)

KP-OK have you heard about Windows Mobile OS?

Yes sir ..designed specially for the mobiles as there are limitations with mobiles wrt processing power and memory etc.. MS came up with windows mobile version5 recently

KP -What is the difference between this and Desktop?

Again reiterated the same points in different wordings and the need for specialized OS for mobiles..symbian etc

KP – What will be the difference in case of a word software?

Blah ..blah, clarified that both will be compatible to open documents with extensions like .doc or .txt etc.

And if the question is asked from the design point of view, then as developer I will try to keep it as light..i mean of smaller size and memory print as possible, keeping the limitations in mind.

KP – What will you consider?

Striping the flashy features while keeping it just as a reader.. like all animations or cascading effects will be removed to keep it simple and light.

KP seemed quite satisfied( or maybe fed up with this continuous globe from my side J)

LP takes over…

LP – Was there somebody else as well with the same name?

Nobody very popular as such, but yes as far as I relate this name there was a politician in UP with the name Bhanu Pratap, but not much sure..

Is he still active?

No, definetly not

LP –From which party?

Congress

LP –Are you sure?

Yes as he was active in 80s, and till 1989 we only had congress govts in UP, except one govt by then janata dal(though I wasn’t too sure about this JD thing).. so he has to be from Congress.

LP –Do you follow Football?

No..not much..

LP –OK bhanu then what are the sports that you like?

I like VolleyBall and Cricket

LP –OK assuming that you know something about VolleyBall and Cricket, tell me the names of players of some other sports?..

If I take tennis then Bhupati, Paes, Sania MirzaJ etc if we take football then Wayne Roonie, the there was Maradona from argentina then Ronaldo, Ronaldinho Carlos etc from Brazil etc, Shooters like Jaspal Rana ..etc ..

LP:- OK thats fine

LP-Have you heard about Orkut?

Yes

LP –How is it ? good or bad?

Definetly it is a great thing..talked about networking and finding your old friends etc.

LP –Who is owner?

Google

LP –Some other products of Google?

The flagship product is the google search, apart from this they have google earth, gmail, spreadsheets, answers..which is discontinued know, picasa etc.

LP –OK how is Outsourcing ? good or bad?

Good, creates value..lower cost and beter service for the company that is outsourcing and revenue for the one which is getting it. So over all good from the business point of view.

LP –What different types of Outsourcing?

Outsourcing within the country and Offshoring.. explained

LP –Only these two?

Actually that is when we look from the geographical point of view, we can similiarly differentiate on the basis of kinda responsibilities that are being outsourced. Like outsoursing of just the customer support/call center services, or maybe outsoursing of just one of the processes/modules , or in an extreme case outsoursing the whole manufacturing and other processes…blah blah

LP –What is BPO?(coming from answer)

Blah blah..

LP – (probably overwhelmed by my answer) OK tell me in a single word, what is the most difficult problem that the BPO industry is facing in India?

Employee retention (wah wah .. maza aa gaya)

LP –Second?

Data privacy

LP –explain

Explained …

Thank you..

Exchange of smiles ..

I came out with a real good feeling, kind of knowing that I should make the cut.

IIMK- GD/PI experience

9th Feb

please read this to get a perspective of whats happeing..

6:00 a.m. Alarm..Alarmm…. umm..click…grrr.. grr…

…………………(sleeping peacefully)…………..

7:00 a.m. Ring Ring …umm click …grr… grrr ……

7:01 a.m. Ring Ring .. huh..finally I woke/jumped up and was standing straight within a fraction of a second, as if there were springs in my bed, could not believe that I defied that alarm, and cut the call as well, Sangeeta was on the line.. just thanked her for waking me up, and felt bittersweet about this unplanned/unaccounted extra hour of sleep(I was supposed to wake up at 6’o clock), sweet because sleep is always sweet 😀 and anyway it is never expected that you will read till late in night even for an interview and at least for an IIM interview that do have the widest horizon for the questions to be asked from.

OK I will not provide you unnecessary information about what I did after this to get ready and what else I read ( haa haa.. I am stupid).. but I got late, really late! Left my flat at 8:25 (was expected to be at the venue by 8:45), and to add to my misery, I was yet to take Xerox of my mark sheets. Got that done in madiwala .. then back on my way for this unseen Monarch hotel, somewhere located near Brigade road.

I reached near M.G Road at around 9 ‘ o clock.. but was not sure about the route, so asked anyone and everyone on route.. nobody looked to be familiar with this Monarch Hotel.. Finally I decided to explore the brigade road, and here it was ..just opposite the REX (should not the address be given as Hotel Monarch, opposite REX cinemas, rather than this not so helpful address – Hotel Monarch ,54, Brigade road)

I looked at my watch, already it was 9:10, My dear innocent heart got intimidated and confused by all this and was pumping blood at a unnecessarily rapid rate, I could feel an increased heartbeat, this was not going to help me in any way, but dil to nadaani karega hee naa..movies mein itni baar pagal aise hee thode naa bola hai?

The GD:- Much to my relief, guys were still waiting there in a room(it looked like a room from outside) .. I entered in that 10-10 ft room filled with atleast 30 IIM aspirants(call getters to be more precise), the room was filled with too much tension(as most of us were having their first interview of the season), there was too much intellect in the air(guys were sharing last minute knowledge from topics as diverse as from types of crank shafts to increase in bank CRR rates, from AVL trees to forthcoming elections in states to IRAN-PAK-INDIA pipeline ).. I felt that there was no AC in that room or may be it was totally ineffective in this situation and the room’s slanted roof was hardly 6 feet high at one end. I glanced at all these immaculately dressed boys and girls, most of them were there for more than an hour and it showed on there faces.

In fact the gravity of the situation was there in the Air, As a general rule I can only say that no matter boss! U may go on to convert all your 6 calls and something even better, but for the first one, you will be tensed.

Within 5-10 minutes we were called in groups of about ten guys per panel. I was in panel 2. This Panel consisted of two profs, one rather old one and one middle aged one with a bit heavy structure(I sensed some trouble).

We were seated on chairs that were placed in a semicircular arc.

The case was distributed, got a 1 minute time to think and then start>>

It was not exactly a case scenario it was rather something like a 5-6 line article about struggles between employees and management and how they affect productivity.

To be frank it was a very dull GD, nobody had great points and everyone came up with more or less same points wrapped in different wordings.

The only guys who stood out (in some sense) were the ones who came out with examples(like in Japan they increase the work.. or shoe factory example)

I also beat around the bush, tried 5-6 times, was heard by the group for some 3-4 times.

Apart from regular rephrasing of the case, My points were like management has to listen and resolve the employees’ demands proactively, so that employees don’t get an impression that they will be heard only when they go on strike. And something about why models of Japan etc may not be successful in India because of lower literacy/awareness rates of workers. I also tried to come up with a point that this whole strike has its root in a sense of insecurity that employees have, maybe because they are not highly skilled labourer, having less market value, so they want to stick to the job that they are doing. That was harshly cut down by some gyaanee one saying that its not true(Indian labourers being unskilled when compared to their counterparts in developed countries), I preferred( I mean I had to .. 😀) t to remain on the backfoot, and anyway to get into a quarrel in an IIM GD is never a good hing and at that time I didn’t have anything in particular to support what I was saying.

Overall a very mediocre GD, and for me as well it was just average.

I would say that apart from 1-2 guys who performed a bit better and 1-2 guys who did not perform that well, all other were more or less on the same level. I should have got an average rating.

The Interview:- Now directly comes to the interview( I was the fourth one in my group):-

Lets call the profs as P1(middle aged one, HR types) and P2(Academics types)

P2:Tell me about your typical day in office?

5:00 –leave :D/ , but y shall I tell the actual one? I will give a pleasant one.. which goes completely about work and queues/timelines/delivery etc etc)

P2:What is a bug?(mentioned it somewhere in my answer)

I defined it well enough ..something like difference between expected and actual output on a given input.

P2:So how many bugs do you find in say 1 lakh lines of codes?

WTH? Depends ..blabbered smthing about like a faulty design will lead to too many bugs , different impact , bugs found at different stages of lifecycle etc etc..ended up with saying about post release bug possibilities n six sigma standards(6 bugs PMO).

P1:What are your hobbies?

P1:So you have directed some skits?

Blah blah..

P1:Sometimes we watch some movies that look more like a TV serial? Whats the problem?

Me: Sir I feel that the problem lies mainly with the director.. as insipid acting by the cast can be one of the major reason for this. He must convey the situation and the intensity to the actors and ask them to get into the skin of the characters rather than being conscious of or distracted by the fact that they are just acting.

P1:No.. No..from technical point of view?

Me:OKkk, there can be a fault in the screenplay itself, dialogs and situations are not lively or interesting.

P1:No ..No not all this stuff ..have you ever thought of making a movie yourself?

No Sir, I have never thought in that direction.

P1:You are missing something ..think from the director’s point of view?

OK you used that world screenplay, tell me whats the difference between a novel and a screenplay?

Me: Everything is described in screenplay..like what exact dialogs will be there, what will be the settings for every scene..infact it treats the story scene by scene.

P1:OK what is the difference between a movie and a stage play.

<hmm.. I started with something that I feared/(and faced :( ) the most>

Sir in play we are performing in front of live audience..there is no retake.. the reaction of audience is going to have an impact on actors..so we need a tighter screenplay. While a movie director has lots of liberties..like he can show instant flashbacks(pretty frequently), retakes, editing etc etc.. even if the film looses its grip for half an hour and picks up the pace after that, nobody is gonna complain. But in a play ppl will start hooting if there is a dull period of even 5 mins.(quite reasonable acc to me)

P1:No ..No ..something technical, you are close, think about it..

P1:Ok whats the difference between a stage play and a street play. (how did this come to picture.. I have never even seen a street play.. or do I look like a madaaree? 😐 )

Sir, in street show we will have even more impatient audience.. another thing is that we will not have some luxuries that we have in a stage show..like the background score or backstage area(whr faltoo actors can wait for their turn to glory/or fear for those 2 mins of shame), so all the characters will always be in view .. I mean every actor will always be the part of the play..so the role of everyone at every point of time needs to be decided.

P1:..No, you don’t know what you are saying..

Now the guru unleashes his knowledge on this poor soul:-

Look it’s a matter of camera angle, in movie you have multiple camera angles, in stage plays you have single camera angle(means the front side/audience)..and in a street play you have whole 360 degrees of camera angle.

Ohh! So this was the gyan that I was supposed to say..well good lines, will be used in next interviews 🙂 )

Now P1 decides that I have already wasted his enough time.. so looks at P2 and then never looked much interested in the interview(ye camera angles ne to meri watt laga dee)

Now P2 again takes up:-

Was going through my marksheets..i explained few of his related queries.

OK bhanu, so you had a subject called Numerical analysis Lab, what was the software that you used in that lab?

Sir as such no particular software was used. We just wrote simple C programs for various techniques to verify and use them.

P2 what all techniques did you study in that?

Sir basically it was about Interpolation, Extrapolation and equation solving through iterative methods like Newton-raphson and Bisection method.(I was very much sure about these iterative methods , so I put a little bit more stress on them)

P2: Ok tell me something about iterative method..

Explained.. Select two values of x such that inbetween them they contain a root(some funde about the range and all) .. now middle point..value(f(x)).. then compare the sign of f(x) with that of f(x1) and f(x2) ..then move in one direction..replace x1 or x2 (depending on the result of comparison) by xmid..etc etc..(pretty good explanation)

Ended with saying that I forgot to say that while choosing initial x1 and x2 signs of f(x1)and f(x2) should be different.

Now from here started all the problems. P2 said that this condition is not required.

I tried explaining him that in case of continuous functions different signs means that there will be atleast one root.

Some more discussion took place .. he asked me to draw the graph of x^2-20x+96 = 0(roots as 12 and 8).. I drew it to show him that if I take points like 4 and 14 then at both points the function is positive ..thus more than one root inbetween them..

He confronted by saying that OK there can be more than one root if we have f(x1) and f(x2) of same sign but it will still converge to one of the root.

I said that in program, how will I decide about in which direction to move if both are of same sign.

More arguments..

I quickly identified that maybe Prof knows that he is erring somewhere but don’t want to accept it ..(maybe)

I thought a bit and said that in that case we may extend this algorithm to actually accept any values of x1 and x2 and return all the roots lying in between them(By calling this elementary algorithm again and again for each of the roots with appropriate ranges.)

He seemed quite satisfied with this.

1-2 more general question and it was over.

Afterthoughts:- I feel that I had an avg GD and an avg PI( I don’t think that P1 is gonna mind those camera angles that much, given that my answers were also kinda right in their own perspective), given the profile of 2 years work ex and a good enough CAT score, I do feel that I have good enough chances in IIMK. Lets see ..